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Post by Mara Jade85 on Jun 13, 2007 20:11:18 GMT -7
Some people don't like doing the entire movie in another language because that like makes it harder on the actors especially if they're not familiar with it. It's really the director's decision, though yeah it's also Gibson's style. I liked that about Apocalypto, they like spoke the actual language of the time and it made it more authentic.
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Post by colonelkurtz on Jun 14, 2007 8:25:41 GMT -7
Yeah it would be hard but I think it does the movie some justice.
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Post by Master Chief on Jun 14, 2007 11:20:00 GMT -7
I agree, it would give the film more of a historical and accurate feel like that. Well with training and proper talent from the actors, I guess they could do it in another language as long as they know what they're saying. The guys in The Passion did it (and I don't think they speak that language every day). They did it a lot in Lord of the Rings (which were fictional languages), so it is a possibility.
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Post by IceMan on Jun 14, 2007 16:22:01 GMT -7
I'm wondering how closely related Gaelic of that time is to modern-day Gaelic. I believe Irish, Manx, Scots Gaelic, Cornish and Welsh all come from some older form -- like Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Icelandic and Faroese coming from Old Norse. I had a roomate from The Isle of Lewis, Scotland who was a native speaker of Gaelic.
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Post by MaxImusMan on Jun 15, 2007 9:02:55 GMT -7
Wasn't Gaelic spoken by Gauls?
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Post by Sir George, Spanish Rebel on Jun 15, 2007 10:51:14 GMT -7
I'm wondering how closely related Gaelic of that time is to modern-day Gaelic. I think i found your answer (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_languages and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brythonic_languages). Feeling quite the Chomsky, i was able to find that the Gaelic spoken by the Britons of Boudica's time eventually developed into modern-day Welsh, Breton, and Cornish, but not Irish. With some rough math, i would calculate that today's Irish (i assume that's what you meant by modern-day Gaelic, given that the Scottish form is irrelevant in this case, although the term can be confusing enough) shares an inconspicuous amount with the somewhat Latin-influenced form of Boudica's. Back to the movie, which has a rather bland title (Boudica would have been better, perhaps even creating how the heck do you pronounce that buzz, which actually happened with me and one of my friends, and on retrospect i was right), and aside from the blatant attempt at creating a pauper to princess-type of film, i don't know what other objection there would be to her being Britain's Joan of Arc (in the sense that she defended her country and died doing so), as she's ranked 35th in a recent poll of the 100 greatest Britons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons, although i'll admit the list has some ridiculous entries, like Beckham, and polled the public and not scholars), and according to the Wiki Iceman supplied she has been quite an inspiration to British poets and the like. But perhaps because she didn't play as big a role in establishing independent rule as Joan did. Strangely enough, one of the writers worked on the Joan of Arc(adia) series. On a sidenote, my friend pointed out (probably erroneously, see www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php/Portal:EOH) that the Brit herself is the origin of the denotation of d**e (or bulld**e) for lesbian, arguing that she was known for hiding in d**es and had female lovers. Note: There goes the censoring machine again.
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Post by Lord Revan on Jun 15, 2007 11:31:11 GMT -7
I think there's already a film called Boudica however, thus that title would be out. I suppose the argument in the pauper to princess thing is that apparently she was of noble descent.
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Post by colonelkurtz on Jun 15, 2007 11:33:57 GMT -7
Oh I do agree that in a sense she WAS Britain's Joan of Arc. I just meant I hope they don't follow the formula of making her some kind of peasant revolutionary who comes to save her people and rulers from foreign invasion.
And regarding your side note, I have heard that too. On imdb there is actually a post where someone asks if "bull d**e" came from "Boudicca".
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Post by Master Chief on Jun 15, 2007 17:06:34 GMT -7
Woah, so she was a lesbian?
But the obvious difference between Joan of Arc and Boudica is that Joan gets captured and tortured by the English (at least that's what I recall from my history lessons, correct me if I'm wrong). Boudica on the other hand is supposed to commit suicide after she's defeated.
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Post by Lord Revan on Jun 15, 2007 18:04:34 GMT -7
Woah, so she was a lesbian? Well that's just speculation
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Post by IceMan on Jun 15, 2007 22:04:01 GMT -7
Woah, so she was a lesbian? Well that's just speculation I would think that a lady who had female lovers is pretty clear.... Unless you mean if she went both ways.
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Post by MaxImusMan on Jun 16, 2007 7:17:39 GMT -7
But she did have a husband according to the articles
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Post by Lord Revan on Jun 16, 2007 12:09:19 GMT -7
She also had daughters. However, that kind of doesn't mean anything other than the fact that she had a heterosexual relationship whether she was a lesbian or not.
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Post by Mara Jade85 on Jun 16, 2007 14:33:48 GMT -7
I don't think there's any historical evidence that she was like that though. Here it says it was just written in some book in 1984 www.humanitiesweb.org/human.php?s=h&p=c&a=b&ID=540. Another cool thing, related to Boudica, is that they mention her ghost appearing now. I think it's about time we started a Boudica thread
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Post by colonelkurtz on Jul 21, 2007 21:19:43 GMT -7
Anyone heard of that movie The Last Legion?
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